In addition to the complexity of the system, I found that the balance between the two very different amplifiers changed slightly as I turned the overall system volume up and down. It just won't replace it, which along with not speculating about either is a key truth. Of course I was speaking only of the ability to hit the air and make the VLF wave, period. The midrange and treble drivers are mounted inside a 12"-tall upper cabinet, the four stiff rubber feet of which engage with recesses made for them in the top surface of the bass cabinet. Wonder how "Money" by Pink Floyd in surround sound would sound like in that Burwen's audio system? Khorns need to be in corners. Thanks John. improving low frequency performance. ...... See AnalogPlanet's visit to darTZeel facility :-) ........ May be AD could borrow a pair of NHB-468s, and tell us how the K-horns and darTZeel sound together :-) ......... Of course, it would be lot less expensive to use McIntosh MC462 (reviewed by Stereophile), if AD chooses to use it, for a follow-up review :-) ......... Any amp(s) with the first two numbers 46 may work fine :-) ........ Volti Audio Vittora, reviewed by AD without measurements, looks very similar to Klipsch La Scala AL5 reviewed recently by Hi-Fi News :-) ......... "If I have to choose, I will choose those products that measure well and also sound great ........ Stereophile is one of the very few magazines that measures and also listens to the audio products". Similar to my own findings with the AK6. I am sure Paul probably helped them set up the system as they were close to Hope. These are the smallest earbuds I have encountered, designed to go further down the ear canal than typical, with tiny and lightweight drivers. Buy Klipsch to match Room size then brace yourself for Hockey Arena SPL capability. As I said, rather than publish polar plots, I show in detail a loudspeaker's dispersion in both horizontal and vertical planes. That is the case with the measurements that accompany the magazine's reviews. We were chatting just after hearing a demo of an excellent, modestly priced loudspeaker. So, if you're not doing it right OR the debate's been settled, why bother ? Of these may favorite would be the TH50. The Dudley quote is mostly as half-baked or uninformed as everything else he wrote about loudspeakers. You are making some inferences about my post that were not implied. Augmenting the La Scala's I'd also look into a design be Josh Ricci called the Skram. Every Stereophile loudspeaker review includes the measured step response. : physically less intrusive) speakers. Regarding speakers, especially horn speakers, we are likely all familiar with how people talk about being far enough away when listening to allow for better "driver integration," where sounds no longer seem to becoming from drivers that can be spaced pretty far apart. One might safely say that recent interest in low-power tube amps has rekindled interest in those models; at the same time, the recent success of hi-fi/vinyl bars, themselves inspired by Japan's long-lived and similarly outfitted jazz cafes, has also rekindled interest in large, horn-loaded loudspeakers. However, the sound I'm after (what I call good sound) and good measurements often diverge at some point in the development process, and I'll always let measurements go where they go in favor of the sound I'm after. The MRSP for the X11i earbuds is $350, BLINQ had them for closer to $100. There still seems to be some issues with the mid driver that need to be hashed out. The Klipschorn can now be toed in or toed out to obtain the best imaging. But that's not "wrong" either. Thanks, Greg :-). There are plenty of them out there, new and used. My review pair appeared very well-made, their cherry veneer—visible mostly on the front of the bass cabinet and the top of the midrange/treble cabinet—having been expertly flip-matched between the left and right speakers. Quote Request. This is precisely what Art did. Free shipping for many products! During the Klipschorn's uncannily long run, its drivers have been sourced from various manufacturers, including Universal, Electro-Voice, and others. Realistic sound reproduction, or certainly its approximation hinges on physics of which size, sensitivity and ease are core parameters, and I don't see any of those apply to the AR1 and its same-principle descendants. But when asked to cite a single example with comprehensive measurements, either total silencce or "because I said/claim so". Exclusions Apply*. all landed with noting problems with timing issues. -Me too. That's just a shameful lack of vision for such a storied company. 2. Smaller direct radiating designs simply won't you there, end of story. Yeah, this has always been the standard response --- look at how big and sensitive our product is, their cone movement, yada yada. It would be interesting to see if there was any correlation between what Art heard and what JA1 would measure. recommends the Klipschorn be placed in the proximity of a corner. There are some videos posted on-line as well :-) ........... Wow. Klipsch Klipschorn AK6 Loudspeakers £ 17,500.00. And no polar plots? Toole/Keele/Geddes say that polar plots (or early-reflection directivity index) are important. I suspect his testing of the Khorn was also pretty well done, although one would think that a speaker designed to be in a corner should also be tested in one. You can build a far better speaker than a K-horn for relatively very little money......planars, like mine, horn speakers, dynamic drivers, etc. Going on to further claim sonic superiority from a 1/4 size package with low sensitivity is really wanting to have your cake and eat it too. ..like the Volti Rival speaker. The first Klipschorn, which hit the market in 1947, was a two-way, single-cabinet speaker in which frequencies below 400Hz were reproduced by a 12" woofer loaded with a bidirectional folded horn, the mouth of which was, as described above, formed by the space between the Klipschorn's plywood bass cabinetry and the user's corner walls. I own KEF LS50's for my mains in my system. Needless to say this construction cost significantly more than the speakers. Many sound pleasant enough, as they should. The authority on good design is sound, even as annoying as the human element has become of late. First, though, I'll mention that according to the manufacturer, the new K-horn does not require corner placement. The impedance of a horn speaker depends greatly on the horn loading....it's not clear in the review text if the impedance was measured in room or in the driveway. That's why examples of the brand's superb-sounding flagship Klipschorn are so few and far between on this side of the pond – sheer physical size ruling it out for most UK audiophiles. But that fades in comparison with Dick Burwen's system! Now kids are gone and I'm in my senior years and I will never sell them again. (I'm talking about frequency-domain; adding in time-domain challenges further complicates things.) The Khorns may run out of extension below 35-40Hz, which is what you're facing when dealing with a "only-so-big" 1/4 wave horn, but for what it does its 15" driver, horn-loaded at that, will have to move much less than a smaller direct radiating, say, 8" woofer to attain the same SPL at a given frequency. It uses a 21" driver, and there quite a few brands/models that fits this design, all of them typically fitted with neodymiun magnets and a very high power handling. I think I could bang it out in a day with help from a friend. For best results, Klipsch highly I don't try for bad measurements and good sound, I try for good measurements and good sound. The measurements do not remotely accurately show the low frequency performance of the speaker. They were all very good, but they didn't measure temporal performance. Sorry Jim, I wasn't paying attention to the comment section and just now saw your post. Now for the question--I'll limit myself to one. Installed just above that horn is a far smaller horn—its mouth is 4.25" by 1.75"—molded from fiberglass-impregnated ABS plastic in a Tractrix flare, driven by a compression driver with a 1" phenolic diaphragm. I have made several speakers over the years and even an eighth of an inch movement between the drivers is quite audible. The constant power, uniform directivity philosophy, coupled with the standard approach to lowering resonance and hopefully distortion, has delivered many a nicely theoretical loudspeaker. It's not that I don't welcome improvements made to a design; my own speakers are exactly that of the Klipsch Belle. Wish List. But I remember seeing the distinct blue faceplate and huge meters of McIntosh gear in the room. In its latest rendition, this historic speaker boasts an all-new neodymium tweeter, premium wire management system, and … Problem seems to be 'quasi-knowledge' of some of the commentators :-) ......... Those measurements are not what you expect from a $15k speaker, good luck selling these Klipsch today at that price, back in the 50-60's maybe. Sure. Why am I telling you this? Roger, the owner, told me that if he moved the tweeter back to the front I would not like the sound at all. Klipschorn {AK6} $15,000 Per Pair (53h, 31 1/4w, 28 1/4d, 220lbs, 105dB SPL, 8 ohms) Available in matched grain of Black, Cherry & Walnut Some of us are PASSIONATE about our music. Also, despite the speakers no longer 'needing' a corner...it's pretty obvious that a real corner will extend their predicted bass boundary to a greater extent than a nailed on baffle does. ".... to deceive and confuse" ......... Oh please JA1, don't run for public office ........ We need you here at Stereophile :-) ....... ..don't do it at all. Acquired the 60th Anniversary KHorns some years ago and had to really work on them. The Klipschorn can now be toed in or out to obtain the best imaging. 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